Greg Celestan, CEO of Celestar Corporation, joins Owen LaFave for a fascinating conversation on the latest trends in the intelligence industry. Spoiler: It isn't everything you see in spy movies. Greg explains that intelligence work is often slow, complex, and not nearly as glamorous or action-packed as media portrayals, since real operatives are meant to blend in and avoid attention. The intelligence field has evolved in recent years with the rise of big data, cyber warfare, and disinformation, requiring a more diverse workforce, including data scientists and engineers who must go through rigorous processes to achieve top-secret clearances. Although final analysis remains human-driven, AI is also playing a major role in sifting through vast data sets as bad actors become increasingly sophisticated in their methods. The discussion then shifts to the "three-dimensional chess game" that is today's geopolitical landscape. Greg touches on the difficulties that arise when potential adversaries of the U.S. see the world very differently, with citizens who may be more willing than Americans to trade personal liberties for stability. Finally, Owen asks the million dollar question: What's up with the unidentified objects over New Jersey, and what are Greg's views on the possibility of alien contact? Listen in to find out!

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